There you go, Swamp already has one, forgot it was there. You will also see there is a (C) not a (M) in the body. That is what I mean, Morphs or Channel. randym77, how did you do that. Looks like something that happens to me once in awhile when I create morphs in Wings and forget some steps. maxxxmodelz, didn't mean for you to think I was talking about you, I wasn't. I was talkng about all threads I've read in general. Seems poser users are more passionate about these kind of things. Mind, you should here me scream when something doesn't work right. LOL.