If your interested in figure creation, and some decent insights to the Cloth Room and Hair Room grab Bloodsong's book, Secrets of Figure Creation with Poser 5 - including Poser 3,4, and Pro Pack, authors real name is B.L. Render. It's about the best I've seen so far, although it's aimed more at the advanced user. Thre was a thread a bit earlier with links to "Most" of Dr. Geep's tutorials. someone really should edit them into a book, they are at least 10 times as useful as any thin in the P5 handbook and I pick up something I missed every time I look though them. Mike