Keppel, also if you hold down the ctrl key and hold down the mouse over your model you get a pull down list of every object under the mouse at that moment and you can select from that list. Very handy - I used Bryce almost a year before knowing that and it has made things a lot easier. Then as fredramsey says if you add the Shift key to the mix you can select multiple pieces. The shift key works as a toggle between adding to your current selection or subtracting. Dave