movida- Well, mostly I render in Bryce because I haven't gotten that far into Max yet, to tell the truth, plus I often use the terrain engine in Bryce. I pretty much use Max for modeling, Poser for fitting and Bryce for rendering, the only othert software I use a lot is Painter, plus the regular set of utilities, UV mapper, CR2 Editor, not to mention Wordpad! I started out modeling in Ray Dream Studio 5, and I can't say enough bad things about that program, I regulary lost hours of work when it started writing "bad" files, I've never lost anything in Max. There is a lot in Max I haven't gotten into yet, like Character Studio that I bought bundled with it. Something to do in my retirement! mikes- Sorry, no, the morphs only fit the SMV hair, but I hope you did get the set I did for the Hollywood hair a couple of weeks ago.