Thanks Thuffner3. Those are Marlin Studio Textures. (www.marlinstudios.com). This pic used Vol 5 Downtown Surfaces and Signs and maybe Vol 2 Rustic Exteriors. I've got six volumes now and Im pleased with all of them. They come with bump and alpha maps, they come in a variety of sizes often and there's a Viewpoint model included on most. On their site you can even download a sample collection of any given volume and ...no pun intended... go to town. : ) Now, I wish I could cc all that to Marlin Studios : ) Thanks for looking and commenting. Dave