Yes, you may be right Max. No one has ever made even a short serious film in Poser. This six-minute preview will be my trial by fire. If I encounter that "whoops, I am working with a toy" feeling, I will be ready to bail. I alreay have VuePro4 setting in a box right here on my desk. It's cute! If on the day I finish this preview I can truly say "I have a movie..." then I will look at options. But if I can do it in Poser by scaling up my "CondoFarm" idea, I just may do it... the simplicity of being in only one piece of software, etc., and I already have the budget to buy another four or so PCs. [note: on Final Fantasy, their time budget was 90 MINUTES per frame and they had 1000 CPUs under Rendrman on that project.] Now that I see I am faced with multiple complete renders for various formats....that is intimidating. I will be mulling that over as I produce this first short. Just to put one concern I know you have away...there is no client pressure on this project. I am the client. Pushiest b'tard I ever worked for. ::::: Opera :::::