Bert007, Believe me, DAZ is LEGIT. By providing certain information, you create an "account" with DAZ, so that if your computer crashes, they can reset your downloads, knowing what you had bought. If anything, after downloading V3 and M3 from DAZ, go to your account info, and delete your credit card info. Someone also mentioned that when ready to "check out", click on Paypal, as that bypases the credit info. Even though it seems intrusive, it makes purchasing there a lot easier. I am not a MOD, however, be VERY CAUTIOUS about asking where to download things. Renderosity, and other Poser sites look down upon warez and copyright infringement. Even though DAZ now made V3 and M3 free, re-distribution is still illegal, just as when one would have to truly purchase($39.95) the models. I hope this helps, -The Starkdog