and here's a 2nd shot...little more space on top and bottom. I'll go back to drawing board, play around more...see what i come up with. i luv playing..but not until very late tonight. i need some space from it....get refreshed. let these ideas float around a bit.... thanks for your input, jan-carel! you and rest of you guys feel free to give me more ideas if you have them. in meantime...just gonna soak all this in and play later.