Maya's free big curly hair can be manipulated to look somewhat like the top of that "Antoinette" do. See the angel on the left side of a render I did a long time ago. http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=302446&Start=49&Artist=queri&ByArtist=Yes I'm not sure quite how I got that effect, I just kept messing with it. Course you would still need ringlets, but some style have those. You can pile hr2's on top of each other until something clicks, believe it or not. Emily