Well I gave up and brought the OBJ into the setup room. I used a CR2 that had part of Ajax's DevilTail in it. I hacked the CR2 so that it would also include the hip group from the OBJ. I then brought in my M3 model and conformed the new figure to him. The image you see here is the result. Wish I had thought of this before I shelled out the $45. Oh well I might eventually try out the geometry swapping features of the program. Might make it worth wile then. Dave