Thanks, you are very helpful and I tried what you said and it worked ! I am now trying to convert .obj files to files I can open in any of the programs that broke me to buy viz. photoshop, illustrator, strata cx, fireworks, text edit, note pad, gif maker, flash, --- what's the deal with .obj files --- how can I learn more about converting files back and forth? I really like Poser and want to become agile with it and nimble. Thanks again for your helpfulness.