Ed, Sorry not totally sure what you are meaning there. Also have you seen any good tutorials on magents in use with clothing - there is some that PhilC have, but I can't seem to find any that deal with clothing morphing etc. I am having big problems trying to figure out how to use Maganets, and getting them to only affect certain parts of the clothing body that I want. Why would I have to delete the original morph and magnets and spawn another when fixing the original clothing morph? I'm a little confused as to why this would be needed?? WiNC