referring back to the number of head issue - can i request scaling morphs? especially for head, neck, torso and hand dimensions? in terms of the v3/m3 angle... first of all, the base mesh is free. not the whole thing. the head and body morphs are still a non-trivally priced add-on. second, most everybody has these items. that's why they did this. the people that don't are a small enough group that they're worth giving the base to so that more people will buy the accessories. just like the customers who bought the bases are worth giving vouchers to so that they can buy stuff they probably wouldn't have (my bet is most go over in trying to use all of the vouchers). personally, i had just spent $20 i wouldn't have to use the $10 voucher with the $5 pc one. and so that customers remain (relatively) happy. but that's daz. it's interesting - people are now debating over why other models haven't surplanted vicky. and they keep harping on looks. saying that dina didn't make it cause she was ugly, and somehow ignoring elle's lack of popularity (not my cup of tea, but definitely not ugly). solondra III/carla looks great, and so does ej. i think they're wrong. it think it's the versatility issue. even girl hasn't come close to taking her on. no one ever showed dina looking like anything other than her initial look. a lot of people really didn't like that look, but i think it was more important that she didn't get photoreal characters made for her like silent smile (http://market.renderosity.com/softgood.ez?ViewSoftgood=32566). or the ones by vali, or by dalinese or by morris. anime doll seems to have been one of the most long term succesful "independent" characters, and i'd say that's because anime is so inherently stylized that a different kind of versatility is needed. and that versatility is shown in the previews (mainly different eye styles, some ear morphs, etc.) i'd say that a3 actually has less anime versatility than her. i think kaimiria really stands a chance of seriously competing with v3 for several reasons. 1) Kaimiria is being built with the artist in mind. Her versatility in several areas will exceed V3's. 2) Seraphira's currently sold clothes are absolutely excellent and were released to popular appeal. The wardrobe support will be there without question. 3) She'll have different hair styles that will appeal to various people (see previous thread). 4) Seraphira's responsiveness to requests and visibly professional and frequent customer support show that the character won't languish like so many others (mill yt, freak, she freak, etc.). Thrown in some photoreal textures by different artists, and I think that would cinch it. And the big thing will be for us early adopters to come up with prominently labled renders that show not only how beautiful she is, but how versatile. And (possibly?) how you don't need Blackhearted to make a petite character for her or Dodger to make a muscular, towering amazon. Or Arduino to step in to make her anatomically correct (even if that type of render isn't welcome here). i really personally want to be able to do different ethnicities well, too. like masai, north west african, thai, mexican, mayan, etc. her nose and lipps actually seem like much better starting places than the unimesh features - one of the main reasons i've been interested in her from the start. when i showed my boyfriend her face in that first thread, he said, "wow, tell me when that's done." mind you, he's absolutely hated every other character so far (i've shown him everybody and multiple v3 characters).