True on both counts. Although there were, here and there, mimeo'd guidelines to where the patches went on the vehicles, in practice they got something similar to the three woodland colors in something similar to the uniform pattern. Depending on the artistic skill of the camofluer, of course; I remember some strikingly bad vehicles (light green with tan spots and little magic-marker like tracks of black, for instance). There are handy seams all over the BDUs to interrupt the pattern -- it is a peculiar set of seams, though. As I recall the pants leg is doubled over the knee with a seam on top, but the back of the leg is a single piece. Anyone on this thread finding good samples of the 1980's - early 2000's "Desert," "Arctic/Tundra" and "Urban?" That Woodland stuff gets boring.