I am terribly sorry I guess I did not explain myself very well (at times I am unsure how to state things). I was not saying that UF is a bad progam or even that it was a bad buy. The images I have seen here on Renderosity prove it is a wonderful program for the money. I have a hard time understanding how some programs work. I guess what I was asking is if the image shows whether I am going in the right direction with this program. I appologize for the miss understanding. Thank you for your comments though. UF has alot of loyal users here.