It's kind of like acknowleging your grandfather. Besides, those of us that got introduced to 3D through Raydream can say things like, "All you young 3Dee whippersnappers don't know how good you got it. When I used to model objects, I had to walk uphill both ways, in the snow - and I liked it. We didn't need no fancy boolean subtraction or eye-candy HDRI, no siree. We just contented ourselves with good, old-fashioned geometry and we were happy to do it.Yep, back in my day, doing atmospherics and landscapes were only for those la-tee-da rich kids who could afford the Four Elements plug-ins and we certainly didn't need no, what do you call 'em now, Bones? Them's were the days alright..."