I still have RDS 5.5 on my computer. I even open it time to time to take a look at the interface but I would rather do all my work in Carrara. I can't bring myself to wipe Ray Dream off my hard drive though. I do think the name Ray Dream Studio is a better product name than Carrara Studio whatever that's worth. I don't care what we call this forum but if I had to vote I'm thinking the Uncle Ed's Flat Footed 3D Goons would be pretty cool... just think of the banner we could make! memaci