richardson, with that C4D now you are the side of a decent size mountain! it's too bad shardz did not change one factor at a time, because after all this noise we still don't know what factor was bogging him down. I think the one he thinks, the "dpi", is the least likely candidate. I still think it was bucket and/or not enough RAM. Since I am on the hill of trueSpace as well as Poser, right now, I have no energy to tackle one of the big boys. TrueSpace7 later this year should be a cool upgrade. They are promising great things. ::::: Opera ::::