yeah, what he said. I'm sitting at my dev computer watching one of my nodes render my latest animation, and every frame..."loading shadow map" takes seconds and seconds. i am reading this thread with fascination and grateful the two of you are hashing it out in a forum where we can pick up the gist. Thanks. Lol, i have had to look about about five terms already. That's as it should be. can i get either of you some coffee? milkshake? How about a double shot of Knob Creek Small Batch Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey 9 years old? ::::: Opera :::::