Well thax Artymotion, now all i have to do is fine out where "Weld Identical Vertices" is so i can check it......... Groups would be?........When it gets to the "Calculating Dynamics" part it will rip up the dress, meaning the skin will show through. maybe a breast would be out or something. It just doesn't match the body the way i want it too! It's the right MDP F202 Character.