Good Morning, Im still willing to play with this render a bit, I never discard .pz3's :) Ive dont think ive ever been completely happy with the tail as I left it, so I think I may make the tail invisible and try a first use experiment of the horsefeathers 7 posable tail to make her look a little less like a heraldic device ;) Antonia, very interesting archery facts!! I think youve just encouraged me to google around a bit for some history of archery pages and check out different cultures uses and adaptions of bows....... Thanks for the extra eyes :) Logan