I always, definitely pose first and dress later. What the character is doing is the main issue for me, not what she/he is wearing. And NEVER ever will I put up with a stiff pose. I think in terms of real people, how they hold themselves, all the little details of hand posture, expression, balance and so on. Including of course a certain amount of (intentional) randomness and asymmetry. So when I have the pose and the rest of it the way I like it (may take days!), I save the pose as a PZ2 and then zero the figure. Dress, conform and apply pose the saved pose to figure. See what went wrong with clothes, fix with tweaks, magnets etc. Along the way I 'save as' many times, almost only as PZ3 or PZZ. In other words I have many versions of the PZ3 with incremental numbering, as in V3SitOnCouch-05, -06, -07 etc. :] Fish