"python doesn't work" is a suprise to me because I am a Macintosh beta tester for a prominent Python author. It works. I have Poser5 on a Mac G5 Dual 1.8 with 2.5 gig RAM. Renders at about the same rate as my 2.4 GHz PC. You have to 'kick up the bucket' with Poser5 on a mac...it makes a much more signficant impact on Mac than on PC. ::::: Opera :::::