Poser 5 Rocks! How much memory do you have? You can operate just as you did in Poser4, with no significant slowdown, in my opinion. The Poser 4 render engine is in there. HOWEVER.... why would you want to???? No... if you are going to 5, you want the power of 5. The new tools. Dynamic cloth and hair. Raytrace and depth shadows and shaders oh my. Therefore you will been putting stress on your system. Therefore you might need more memory. It's fun. ::::: Opera :::::