Gee, Ron, that's really perceptive of you. :D Cept nothing says it has to be three teams. One team can do all of that. And what better time to start that in depth total rewrite than when ya'll sit down and really dig into the old gunk and clean it up -- let's you see all the stuff that ya screwed up the first time and can try to avoid the second. I will say one thing, though. Poser 6 is going to piss more old timers off than Poser 5 did. Poser 6 is going to cause all the wonderful hacks and stuff to not work anymore. Why? Because they are doing exactly what was asked. They are fixing all the bugs. (We can only hope they agree with what many here call bugs, lol) A lot of those bugs have been exploited. Magnets, Readscript hacks, easypose, crosstalk, and more. Some products in the marketplace today are essentially composed entirely of hacks on hacks like a house of cards. Well, if CL fixes those bugs, those hacks are gonna go bye bye. If they do what they have said they are doing -- which is cleaning up and out all the old stuff inside that old code -- then yeah, it will piss folks off like nothing else. P5 was a drop in the bucket for people getting pissed off at CL. I've already ordered my Popcorn truck. They said it would take a couple months just to make the new tank on the cement mixer...

thou and I, my friend, can, in the most flunkey world, make, each of us, one non-flunkey, one hero, if we like: that will be two heroes to begin with. (Carlyle)