Little Dragon starts "weeping" when a frame takes longer than 2 minutes. I have mostly been in the same boat, trying to stay under 2 minutes. But now I've changed my "grief level" to 2.5 minutes, because of ""acceptance"" of that time. It's okay with me now, in order to get sharper images. I've generally upped my shadow map setting, which pushes up render time, but yeilds more detail in the image. ::::: Opera :::::