...wow. "i can build a whole model in less time than i can put together a poser render i like well enough to upload to the gallery." Robo2010 has already bumped his head on the harsh fact that animation is a major pain in the butt. You're taking him in a misleading direction by saying the above and by saying, "it sounds to me like you would do better using a different program". Lightwave is no substitute for Poser, and vice versa. The apps serve completely different functions. Neither can substitute for the other. Are you suggesting he build a better model/morphs than V3 in Lightwave, then rig it, then texture it, and then, finally, animate,light and whatever else and render it? If he can do that then Disney will hire him right now.