now, I admit he didn't say which versions. I have Cinema 4d (v6), Carrara (v1), Bryce 5 (and 4, but 4 was a dang site cheaper), Poser 4 and 3 (same story), Truespace (v3), Maya (LE), and Lightwave (LE, no save, and 400-polygon limit) etc., but I got all but Bryce 5 and Poser 4 off the British Mag Mafia's magazines..;) Still, it's a bit of overkill..

I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit

anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)