Aye, something else we really need to discuss, Pumeco. This isn't your first image. In fact, thus far, you have ZERO images. And while other people like my friend Jocko are nearly as arrogant as me, at least they have A image to refer to. What's going on here is that you are just building off of other people's work. Note the model you are using? You didn't even make it. There is nothing innovative about this at all. There are a lot of things going on in this thread, but RayRaz is the only one who's fully called you out. Once again, I'm gonna have to agree with Drac on this topic : pro render sucks ass.