I tried to figure out RayDream Designer but eventually gave up and went to the Dark Side when I got a copy of DoGA L1. Then I took the plunge and registered DoGA L2 and Vue d'Esprit 2 for Windows 95. Making cool spaceships in 3D and importing them into worlds that I made was really cool. Many years later (and countless missing hairs) I'm now using Poser 5, Vue 4, and Maya Unlimited daily on my beloved Mac platform. -scara