Gawd I hope we're not going to start into all this again. If it's not the Hot 20, then it's pro render :^( Being (lots) older than lsd and rr, I've seen plenty of people achieve pretty amazing things that I wouldn't have been capable of, and that I was sure they wouldn't be able to pull off. I've also known people who were foolishly self-confident, and got their ass in a sling. So at this stage of my life I'm quite prepared to believe that people can do what they say they can, until it's been proved otherwise. pumeco can either do what he says, or he can't. Bad-mouthing him isn't going to make the slightest difference to the outcome, and is pretty tiresome for everyone else.