Bryce demos got me hooked. I "cheated" by taking screen shots a split second before the watermark appeared on the image, which meant that anti-aliasing didn't complete on the very bottom line, not that you could tell. LOL ... totally unacceptable method to me now, but I wasn't "serious" yet ... just playing with computers and "the pretty colors." (Remember that phrase? Remember when we only had 256 pretty colors?) As for comp graphics in general, I got started at the Academy of Art College in San Francisco on old Macs, I don't remember the name of the paint program, but my slides of the images, although quite old, aren't bad at all, bless Apple. That school now uses SGI workstations. The students are probably snobby about Poser. :-) I got sold on Poser while viewing images made with it at Japanese sites ... sort of by accident. I was looking for 2D images but inevitably came across 3D imagery as well. Same thing happened with Vue. I was amazed at the beauty of visions of pre-Westernized Japanese landscapes that people had created in Vue.