I started out with amorphium because I didn't know any better in 2000, then went too bryce and poser they pissed me off because bryce didn't do people and poser4 sucked with rendering plus they didn't work together when it came to animations, from there i went to lightwave I liked lightwave but ended up going to a school that tought max so thats where I'm at, 3d max seems pretty good but i got a lot to learn