thanks alot for every ones help We figured out that HMann-FmBlondie has a hair texture on it so if ya take off the hair texture ya see the scalp with HMann-FmBlondie.so it's a mix of dynamic hair and hair textures. I got it to work for a animation u can not just pose dynamic close,you half to make a animation to use dynamic close,correct ? --- We got a clue about the pose,hair,cloth room. still have a few more rooms to get a clue about. in the material room Judy's texture is in a node titled "color texture" all I can find is a node called "image map" new node / 2D texture / image map where is the node "color texture" ??? / ??? / color texture. RorrKonn rorrkonn@atomic-3d.com http://www.atomic-3d.com TS6.6 SP2,LW7.5c,Basic C4D 9 + BP2, zBrush 2,Poser 5,DAZ,Visual C++. What ever it takes to get there. RTFM...What if the manual don't know ?

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