A more successful day :) - of course I couldn't resisit shooting some macros, they came out and in focus so the camera is forgiven :)) Result is in my gallery no postwork only resized and bordered. Thx for the info Donald I do like to know how things work. I should read up more on it but there is always such a long list of things I want to read up on. I am convinced yesterdays problems (which had occured before) were due in part to the subject being difficult for the camera to focus on, and in part due to my ineptitude. Lifes a journey they say, we learn along the way. Richard.

And every one said, 'If we only live,
We too will go to sea in a Sieve,---
To the hills of the Chankly Bore!'
Far and few, far and few, Are the lands where the Jumblies live;
Their heads are green, and their hands are blue, And they went to sea in a Sieve.

Edward Lear
http://www.nonsenselit.org/Lear/ns/jumblies.html