Yeah, I'm trying to keep it all in my brain and not go into to Poser to see how it works BUT I know it works with the eyes but there, the box is parented to the head and the eyes point at the box. If the head points to the floor when you say, "head point at Aux cam" my thought was just change the target and then if the head is pointing at the floor you can move it wherever until your head is back in the desired position. Parent the box to the cam and now if the cam moves it will take the head target with it. As for the order of rotation...? Ok, I'll go try it. Be back in a sec. or two.