I can see where you're coming from, lsd. But f'rinstance, I don't post Bryce images here because I use it for rendering 3d objects made in Wings, that are for commercial purposes in the real world. But I enjoy the forum, like getting tips, like the other forum members. At the same time it's not strictly a hobby for me. I buy materials on occasion, and I like having that option. I don't see anything wrong with people trying to earn a living from a skill that they possess. This is a commercial site, whether we like it or not. If pumeco finds a way to make money from selling an add-on to Bryce, good luck to him. If he doesn't, I'd feel for him that he put a lot of work and effort into something that didn't work out. Why not leave him alone to find his own way into the community? He hasn't committed any crime. This whole war was instigated and is kept alive by drac. It's time he pulled back and let it go.