lol, guys, relax. poggy, you and i have several issues to talk about, but you have to admit that my attempt was perfectly generous and normal given this forum. Len said he didn't know how to do something, I helped him out in another thread with ways to do it. Afterwards, the rest was a surprisingly civilized discussion between me and him. I pulled the whole poor bastard thing as a joke, and i didn't see him inflame the thread any bit. drac (pumeco and i are pals) ((more like acquaintances))