xoconostle- I'm NOT a modeler- I toss out ideas in hopes that someone with modeling skills (that I wish that I had) would make cool stuff. My end of the deal is that I will BUY the cool models, and hope other people will too. As I've probably said in other posts, I'm a "rendering" kind of guy! Just looking for that next great model to buy that some talented modeler out there is going to make... (That's why my first stop every day when I visit Renderosity is to check out what cool stuff may be showing up NEXT in the Marketplace...- THEN I visit the forums...)