Len... Just go to the Bryce Forum search and type in "Global Illumination", "Radiosity", or simply, "Ornlu", and you will find your necessary imagery for withdrawing kindly. I wasn't trying to threaten or bug ya with the false-advertising statement, but like I've said before, there's nothing "pro" about pro-render. Lowercase intentional. Perhaps entitle it, "grainy-render", or "near-grainy-photo-render", or not-so-simply, "takes too long for a professional to consider it render". Much more accurate. And Len, we will always be friends. If you feel angry towards me, just look at my stupid screen name. I'm sure you could have just as much fun dissecting it's implications as I have disassembling your "product".