thanks LP!!! i LOVE that Paul Heaton quote BTW!!! when i was out for that short time shooting on Sunday, this is the one i was thrilled with! DOF does definitely suck, LOL. i could always erase everything except the subject and see what that does. just play around with it. it's that bent piece of metal that makes this image for me. i know this will sound weird, but when i look at this, it reminds me of a winter scarf blowing in the wind. well, i see a lot more, but for now, this is all i wanna say. well i'm glad you see something about this you like. artistic and expressive...lacking in technical merit. i'll play around with this one. look at it a lot. it makes me happy to look at it. thanks, Simon!!!!