Jaymonjay...I copied the pdf manual off the Bryce cd onto my hard drive...it's the one thing I managed to actually accomplish in Bryce tonight! ;P hehehe Ardiva...sounds great, all of you cant be wrong...I'll give it a shot tomorrow... lordstormdragon...I'd appreciate your material and sample project files...I'll IM you...thanks so much :D

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