well, the people helping me, both here and at PC Club where I purchase systems say to set the swap file at 1.5 times you actual RAM. It have not penetrated into that too much to grasp the "why." About Vue...are you sure you would be any better off in Vue? Sure you can move the scene over, but if you attempt to emulate the shadows and reflection qualities you are attempting with Poser, will the Vue render time be any quicker? ::::: Opera :::::