Just because people are bouncing up and down excitedly on the trampoline with you doesn't mean that they are all skulking sneak thieves! Maybe they have other protections. Maybe they use other operating systems. Maybe they've seen enough of Norton's quirks not to panic. Maybe they even have severe real world issues more worth worrying over than whatever is going on inside YOUR machine. Given all the sites that you visit, you ought to be more worried about that. And, BTW, it is crackers, not hackers. Carolly