well, at least it brings to our attention to have better at home and server security that is the issue here. Sigh Unfortantly there will always be some taffer trying to invade servers, which I know all to well because Myself I have two large servers. I do doubt that hackers are stealing passwords from renderosity though, I mean their security is pretty tight from what understand, but nothing is perfect. PHP problem: As a merchant finding my products on warez cds and other cd's being sold I am quite pissed off, of course it effects sales and thing is what can i do? contact jenyk I gather and hope for a reslove? This is my idea, purely therological though. I believe that the "crackers" as haunksdottir so corrected. Is ethier buying and reselling or putting it up on PHP servers for mass distrobution. >:(. Sera