Diagoro wrote: i dont understand why so many people think that carrara is something like a kiddie tool Well, I think, one reason for that is the "working box". 2.54 inch, thats a kiddy size. So the first you are confrontated, if you test carrara, that you are not able to build a simple house in worldscale.(try to use the camera tools in real wolrd scale and know, what I mean) But I think, wiht the knew tools in the assemble room, the working box as it is, is n relict of the past and will die. Why is carrara good most for print? The vector plugin makes it a excellent tool for web and the fast renderer for movie. So it is a real allround tool. Johannes