Ohhhhh... Dont tell DAZ that Bryce is a toy my friend...You might just Piss them off enough to start working towards putting Bryce were it should be anyways...Kickin the higher end Softwares butt..But I think we wont "Start" to see the things we want until version 6...The reason why I say start is because AS YOU well know every little change Always has an effect on something,Where there is an action there is a reaction... Maya is awesome tho on a side note...I do use MayaPLE and yes I can do almost everything but render without the waterMark...But hey at least I am learning...