I just gotta add my WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOAaaaa to this thread. When I read the feature list, I got goosebumbs. Still have em. The EcoSystem thing alone is more than I could've wished for. The illumination baking sounds very promising, too... especially if it can be done on a per object basis. Dang, sure hope my keyboard doesn't get shorted out from me droolin on it for the next 6 weeks. Way ta go, E-on!!!