...I have complaints about P5 too, but we shouldn't lose sight of the price point of Poser... a hundred fifty bucks or so for a first time user. That's dirt cheap for a 3d app. If P6 is buggy when it first comes out and it's still in that price range, no prob here. They'll patch it. I'll be bummed if CL ever sells to a business man whose plan is to raise the price to five hundred bucks knowing full well he'll lose a bunch of customers, but have fewer complaints to deal with on about the same revenues.