The one by Debra is fine for a distant render. The texture is quite nice. But for a close up it just doesn't make it. it is a lumpy mesh that works well again as I said as a figure in the distance. Dedicated Digital claims to have one on the Animal CD $149.00 (pricy) http://www.dedicateddigital.com/ I have e-mailed them to ask if they indeed had it and would be willing to sell it separately. No answer from them at all, and it's been awhile since I asked :( James PS. I too am into the whole Harry Potter craze ;-) I did a Harry portrait in a previous thread. Search for Harry Potter.